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04 December 2006 @ 07:50 pm
Superman II: The Donner Cut  
Wow. That is all I can say. I've always been a fan of Superman: The Movie and Superman II, but after watching The Donner Cut I can't help but feel a little sad. This version, while sometimes a bit choppy, was way way way way way better than the original Lester version that came out. The Donner Cut just rocked.



This was a tough project. Trying to create a film using old footage and pretty much create an entirely different movie is not a simple task. But aside from a few bumps here and there, I found the sentiment in the Donner Cut to be superior to the Lester Cut.

Now, it's been a long time since I've seen the Lester Cut, but I can tell there is a difference. The Donner Cut had a more serious tone to it. Lois figured out Clark was Superman right away. Lois was a much stronger and less annoying character. A lot of people don't like Margot Kidder's Lois Lan but wow. I really liked her here. She reminded me of other Lois Lanes that came after her and those that preceeded her.

And there was no really stupid forgetful kiss. We had stupid turn back time thing again, like in the first one, but there was no stupid forgetful kiss. The turning back time thing also allowed for Clark to offically not kill anyone--everything didn't happen. That was great.

The Donner Cut focused more on the legacy of Jor-el and Kal-el. There was this definite theme of father and son, with Zod the enemy of the father against Kal-el, the son of the father. It was stronger and more defined here in this version than the Lester Cut. The Lester Cut didn't even have Jor-el in it.

In The Lester Cut, Lois finds out about Clark/Superman when Clark goes to grab something out of the fire and doesn't burn his hand. In this version, Lois already seriously suspects CLark is Superman and had already called him on it, but had been proven wrong. This time, she's not backing down. She pulls a gun on him. Clark is visibly shaken, but she just goes ahead and shoots him. Clark takes off his glasses and reveals who he is and told her if she was wrong, she would have killed Clark. Lois then cleverly tells him she had blanks. So Lois outsmarted Superman. Or how I see it, Clark wasn't really trying hard to hide it anyway.

What was beautiful about this scene is that there was this interplay between Lois and Clark before Clark revealed himself. Clark goes off about how he can't be like Superman and the two of them bicker. It was great to see because it showed them as their characters. The Clark in this scene isn't the same bumbling Clark Kent act he plays, and he's not the super confident Superman we see either. He's a mix right in the middle, the person I believe Clark Kent/Superman/Kal-el really is. He was really passionate here and I loved it.

Everything in this version just was so much more character driven and the strength between Lois and Clark really was there. It was fantastic. Between the fleshed out interaction between Lois and Clark and the more personal touch of the Zod and Kal-el conflict, this movie left me satisfied.

I just wish they hadn't done the stupid turn back time thing again!

Now, that was fun to watch but I still can't relax. I'm missing Under the Mistletoe tonight because of Monday Night Football and I can't really go out because I have too much to do. And my dogs have been pestering me all day and I don't know why. Just need to destress. Maybe I'll meditate or something.
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Grimorie: Nine&Rosegrimorie on December 5th, 2006 06:19 am (UTC)
The Donner cut is out? Wow from your description it certainly sounds its much better than the one that was released. I wasn't at all happy with the forgetting kiss Clark did to Lois I'm glad that in one version it didn't even happen.

I think I'll consider the Donner cut canon.
Working for the Mandroid: Clarkmoonshayde on December 5th, 2006 02:12 pm (UTC)
I'll have to watch the other version to be sure just what was different, but yes the Donner cut is out. It's hard to explain. It's just better. It's not perfect and it's choppy, but they were reconstructing a movie from bits of film from 25 years ago.

My father was watching it as well (the man that originally got me into Superman) and he was like, wow this version is a lot more serious than the other one. It still has goofy moments but there is a different overall vibe. And a huge focus on Jor-el.

It is definitely my new canon :)
songya on December 5th, 2006 04:19 pm (UTC)
My thoughts on the Donner Version
I saw the Richard Donner Cut myself and personally I don't know if I am ever going to be able to go back to the Lester version again unless I need a quick laugh. I loved how the villians were portrayed more seriously in the Richard Donner version where in the Lester version they seemed to be more like a bunch of clowns than the biggest threat known on Krypton!!! And the scenes between Kal-El and Jor-El words cannot even begin describe not that I had anything against him talking to Lara in the Lester version but the Kal-El/Jor-El scenes to me just brought more to the mix!!! Now if they would just maybe but the Superman movies back in the theater for one special week I think that would be tops!!! Anyway if anyone is reading this who hasn't gotten the Donner version yet go out and get it!!!
Working for the Mandroid: Clark and Lois (Smallville)moonshayde on December 6th, 2006 05:05 am (UTC)
Re: My thoughts on the Donner Version
I know! I don't know how I can face the Lester version again. It makes me sad. Imagine what kinds of movies we could have had with Donner at the helm. Oh well. At least we have this director's cut.
songya on December 6th, 2006 12:54 pm (UTC)
Re: My thoughts on the Donner Version
For real like Superman III for example they were talking about introducing Brainiac and having Supergirl in it a whole bunch of things but of course the idea was scrapped and replaced with Richard Pryor as the computer geninus. Really if it was Donner straight through who knows indeed what might have been of the Superman movie franchise