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17 June 2007 @ 08:49 am
Celebrating Finale Week: JACK  
To kick things off, let's talk Jack, shall we?

You can't talk Stargate without Jack O'Neill, the man of many sides, because only the man can stick it to the man. We've seen the military man, the soldier, the Black Ops specialist. We've seen the leader, the hero, and the friend. We've seen a man shaped by tragedy and pain, a man that became so wounded he nearly commited suicide, but we've also seen that same man refind himself and move on.

He may not ever completely heal, but he's recaptured some of that spark of life again. And it's this spark and need that drives him, keeps him focused, and allows him to keep those under his comamnd, his teammates, and his friends in line so they can live to fight another day.

Whether you enjoy strategist!Jack, angsty!Jack, smart!Jack, playingdumb!Jack, wounded!Jack, whumped!Jack, witty!Jack, team!Jack, cranky!Jack -- the list goes on and on -- please come here and post and share your joy. Drabbles, ficlets, links, vids, meta, icons, banners, wallpaper, squee, episode caps, pictures, episode discussion, fave one-liners, fave moments, fave episodes...give it your all, people! This is all about sharing :)

As someone once said, and I don't have the proper cite, "Jack is a family man without a family."

How true. But in his years with SG-1, either on the team or supporting the team from afar, he's established a new family. They will never replace what he's lost, but we know he'd do anything for them.

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Possible topics to get things going...

What's your fave Jack episode?
What's your fave Jack line?
How does the word respect apply to Jack? Duty? Pain? Forgiveness? Loss? Friendship?
If you could sum up Jack in one word, what would it be?
Post a drabble or ficlet for the word "forever."
Why did Jack take the Washington DC assignment?
What are your thoughts on the dynamic between Jack and Hammond?
Post icons that are inspired by "deadly" or "satisfied."

Post about ANYTHING that celebrates Jack. Get going. You know you want to ;)
 
 
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Library Alterna-Chick ;): innerchild - failing0lovejedishadowolf on June 17th, 2007 02:02 pm (UTC)
Why did Jack take the Washington DC assignment? Well, I don't know if it answers the question fully, but in the spirit of participation and such, I give you this...totally unbeta'd though. :)

When Sam wanted to focus more on Cassie, Jack suggested the R&D job. He helped her pack, put her in touch with old friends that had a house for rent, and generally did everything he could to help her.

When Teal'c wanted to go to Dakara and take his place as a true leader of the Jaffa, JAck made sure a portable dvd player and the Star Wars movies were packed in with his belongings, as well as those smelly ocean breeze candles he liked so much.
When Daniel asked to go to Atlantis for the fiftieth time, Jack finally gave in and agreed to the transfer. When he signed the papers he added a folder that included all the things Dr. Wier would be required to do in order to make sure Daniel didn't work himself to death and how to handle it when he let his curiousity get the better of him and he touched the wrong thing. Of course, Jack had to admit (though he didn't tell Dr. Wier) Daniel'd gotten much better about the touching thing since he'd descended.

Once he'd seen his team taken care of he sat in his office looking at the transfer requests both for leaving and coming into the SGC. He was glad to sign off on Cameron Mitchell's request to come to the SGC and he relished refusing General Baker of Area 51's request to transfer Walter Hariman. Some people simply belonged at the SGC. With housekeeping taken care of, Jack picked up a well worn letter. One he'd looked at almost hourly since he'd signed Daniel's transfer three days before. His team was taken care of, Earth was safe...relatively. President Hayes wanted him in Washington, he knew Hammond was finally getting a chance at retirement, and Hayes needed someone he could trust nearby. Jack wasn't known for bending to politicos and Hayes knew he could do diplomacy, though maybe not as well as Hammond. It was a good offer but one Jack would've immediatley turned down if his kids were still at the SGC. But they weren't, or wouldn't be soon. Daniel was the last one to leave and he'd ship out with the Daedelus. They weren't going on missions, they didn't need him standing watch for them anymore. He set the letter down and picked up his pen.

They had good golf courses in Washington right? Maybe it was time to work on his backswing.
Working for the Mandroid: Strongmoonshayde on June 17th, 2007 02:50 pm (UTC)
Oh how lovely. And the last line just cinhced it, too ;)

Jack is always llooking out for those he's let into his his inner circle, as tough as it may be. Whether they know it or not, SG-1 wll always be with him.

Yay!
Jenn: heart jacksurreallis on June 17th, 2007 02:37 pm (UTC)
Jack, Jack, he's our man, if he can't do it... Well, Sam and Daniel can. :P

Why don't I give you some caps, since I have a ton out there for Jack specifically!




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Atlantis- Rising

Working for the Mandroidmoonshayde on June 17th, 2007 02:48 pm (UTC)
The many faces of Jack! Most excellent!
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crayonbreakygal: Jack pie whiterabbit___crayonbreakygal on June 17th, 2007 04:16 pm (UTC)
Window of Opportunity, Paradise Lost, Abyss. Those are the only ones I can come up with off the top of my head. I'm sure there are plenty more favorite episodes.

I think I've said this before, but I'm not sure. Daniel drew me to SG-1, but Jack made me stay and love it. I didn't get my first taste of Jack until I'd watched about half of Season Nine. I didn't know what I'd missed. It's been a fun journey to watch all those great episodes from ten years ago.

I love all those Jacks that you listed and then some. I also love Pie!Jack. Funny at its best.
Working for the Mandroid: Jugglingmoonshayde on June 17th, 2007 10:59 pm (UTC)
Abyss - best RDA acting episode ever.

Daniel also drew me to the show - I jumped in during S7 and then gobbled the other seasons - but I ended up loving them all.

However, over the past couple of years I've become very cozy with Jack. Some of my friends joke that I am really a huge Jack fan, but just don't know it.

heh heh ;)

And Pie!Jack! Yes! How could I forget?

And since this is a celebration, there should be cake *nods*
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Suzanne: jackbreathesuzannemarie on June 17th, 2007 04:26 pm (UTC)
Ah, my favorite topic. One word to describe him?: True. Or possibly commitment.

True to himself, to his teammates, his friends, his country. He's the one everyone knows they can count on. The one they trust to see things through no matter the personal cost. He provides the safety net that allows Daniel to take ridiculous chances, Teal'c to turn on his masters, Sam to be a strong, smart woman. He allows them to be themselves and they know that they can count on his support.

I have a theory that Jack pretends not to be as smart as he is because he wants to allow Sam and Daniel to shine as the brainy ones. They're the ones that find part of their identity in their intellect. Jack steps aside and lets them be the smart ones and takes on the role of military regular guy. But he still asks the penetrating questions that get to the point.

Sometimes I think of the West Wing episode where Bartlett temporarily steps aside, and everyone says at various points "Leo will know what to do." To some extent, I think Jack is the SGC's Leo. He'll know what to do. He'll look out for his people always. And he'll never look for accolades for himself. (I happened to watch New Order last night. There's a scene at the end when Weir thanks him for his service and for all that he has done and sacrificed. Jack acknowledges it with a half-embarrassed nod and then deflects the subject to something else. I think that speaks volumes. He serves and he does his duty because that's just who he is.

I see Jack as perceptive, compassionate, tough, snarky, humurous, cranky, sometimes lonely, fierce, protective, complicated. He likes to present as simple, but he's not. He's been knocked down by life over and over, both before and after joining the SGC, and he keeps getting back. Sometimes he gets up slowly. But he always does. He carries deep hurts within his soul, but he keeps going. His life is filled with sadness and loss, but he still looks to positive. ("Where there's a will there's an or.") There's a minor key that runs through Jack, but in spite of that he is very much alive.

And those are some of the reasons that I will always love Jack. He's a survivor, and man of layers and depth. And the person they can count on to make the hard decisions, the person that makes they trust implicitly, the person that will make it all right. Whatever "it" is.
Suzanne: jackbreathesuzannemarie on June 17th, 2007 04:47 pm (UTC)
And just to supplement, some of my favorite Jack episodes:

Cold Lazarus, Serpent's Lair, A Matter of Time, The Fifth Race, Shades of Grey, The Other Side (here we get to see Dark!Jack), Tangent, Chain Reaction, Abyss, Paradise Lost, Lost City, Zero Hour, Moebius.

Among many others.
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beanpotbeanpot on June 17th, 2007 04:33 pm (UTC)
I love the dynamic of Jack and Hammond, particularly in the first season. I think Jack respected the uniform of Hammond, but it took a bit for him to respect the man. If only because Jack had less than stellar COs who do what is correct but not what is *right* for the people under his command. But then he saw Hammond willing to trust Jack's instinct on Teal'c, trust Daniel on his alternate universe visit that Apophis was coming, trust Sam's crazy ideas about to solve things, and trusted Jack to get them all home. So trusting the man in the uniform was a new thing for Jack, and a lesson he never forgot.

When Hammond found out he was going to have the infamous Jack under his command, the JCOS sent him 20 year scotch as a joke. He asked for Sam Carter to make up for the wackiness (not that he would ever tell her that). But then he met Jack and saw someone whose life had value in protecting his family. He knew about the loss of Charlie and saw how Jack was healing himself through his team and George decided to do everything he could to protect them. (not just because he knew the truth about Jacob Carter's past and never, ever wanted to be the one to call about loosing his baby).

They certainly never agreed 100% of the time, and George will always regret Jack's undercover work that almost tore about his new family. But when he pinned the stars on Jack's shoulders, and cracked open the 20 (now almost 30) year old scotch with Gen Oneill, he knew the joke was on everyone else.
Working for the Mandroid: Jack's Smilemoonshayde on June 17th, 2007 10:52 pm (UTC)
They certainly never agreed 100% of the time, and George will always regret Jack's undercover work that almost tore about his new family. But when he pinned the stars on Jack's shoulders, and cracked open the 20 (now almost 30) year old scotch with Gen Oneill, he knew the joke was on everyone else.

Simply stunning. One of the most beautiful comments I have ever heard.

Cheers *holds up her glass*
(no subject) - beanpot on June 17th, 2007 11:31 pm (UTC) (Expand)
(Anonymous) on June 17th, 2007 04:37 pm (UTC)
Drabble for "forever"
EPITAPH
drabble for "forever"
by Lida
Category: AU
Season: about 7
Spoilers: none
Content Level: C
Warnings: character death

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They looked at each other.

“An epitaph?” Repeated Sam.

“A good epitaph?” Added Daniel.

“Indeed.” Teal’c nodded solemnly. “He was a great warrior and he should be honored. His actions should be remembered forever.”

They all nodded and started thinking.

They stayed in silence for a very long time.

Tears started rolling down Sam’s face. Daniel pulled her into a hug. Teal’c put his left hand on Sam’s shaking shoulder, the other one resting on Daniel’s.

They sat there, the three of them, together, supporting each other, and yet alone.

And then it hit them.

“He was always there,” they said.

FIN
Gillian: stargate - hussycrazedturkey on June 17th, 2007 07:57 pm (UTC)
Ah Jack lines..so many to choose from!

the infamous sidearm line of course...which always makes me laugh1

O'Neill: I think I cracked a rib, too.
Carter: Why didn't you say something?
O'Neill: I was afraid you'd try to put a splint on it.
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O'Neill: Well, I suppose now is the time for me to say something profound... Nothing comes to mind.

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O'Neill: You know that "we come in peace" business? Bite me.

~

O'Neil: In the middle of my backswing?!

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Hammond: Colonel Chekov feels that as a symbol of our joint efforts, a Russian officer should be assigned to join SG-1.
O'Neill: Over my rotting corpse, Sir. I'm sorry, did I say that out loud?
Hammond: I said I would discuss it with you and that I was sure you would give it some careful thought.
O'Neill: And that I will, General, but I'm still pretty sure I'll say, "Bite me."

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O'Neill: You ended that sentence with a preposition. Bastard.

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O'Neill: I've spent my whole life sticking it to the man.
Jackson: Well now you will be the man.
O'Neill: I don't think I can be the man.

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Jackson: Jack, we need to talk! Oh! Sorry for interrupting.
O'Neill: No! It's important. You must interrupt. You must.
Jackson: I think we may have found a ZPM.
O'Neill: Yes!


and that's just for starters! ROFL


Working for the Mandroid: Jackmoonshayde on June 17th, 2007 10:50 pm (UTC)
I think Jack has the best lines. He just does. He has that everyday sarcastic, sometimes pop culture type of feel, but not to the extent say, Mitchell does. But it works for him and he does it such an intelligent way.
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Working for the Mandroid: Unprotectedmoonshayde on June 17th, 2007 10:43 pm (UTC)
Lovely. So much pretty! *grins*

While I don't agree that everything fell apart after Jack left, it just wasn't the same. I'm very much a classic team ga;, and Jack really was the root of that team. He was the heart. he kept it together. But I still feel that even though we don't see him much anymore, he still is the glue that keeps them together. It always comes back to Jack ;)
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Pepper: Cuddle a Colonelpepper_field on June 18th, 2007 01:10 am (UTC)
Two of Jack's sides - gifs that I haven't yet found a use for (because they're too big for icons, dammit)...

Funny Jack ("Me? Big important military guy with dark past? Naaaaaaaah."):

Photo Sharing and Video Hosting at Photobucket


And, caring Jack ("No matter what it takes, I will protect you."):

Photo Sharing and Video Hosting at Photobucket

(Although the above is about Sam, he'd do it for any of his team, IMO.)

I wanted to write more, but my brain is fried. But I love this theme idea. :)
Suzanne: jackbreathesuzannemarie on June 18th, 2007 01:29 am (UTC)
That Funny Jack gif is one of my favorite visuals of him. Hee!

I love those rare moments when we see him genuinely giddy or excited. Like at the beginning of Tangent when he's all excited about the glider (before it all went horribly, horribly wrong). It's like we get to see this glimpse of when he was the young air force officer who was just really excited about flying.
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Michelle: learningseramercury on June 18th, 2007 03:02 am (UTC)
My fave Jack episode is Window of Opportunity and my favorite line is, "If we don't find a way out of this soon, I'm gonna lose it. Lose it... It means go crazy, nuts, insane, bonzo, no longer in posession of ones faculties, three fries short of a Happy Meal, WACKO!"

Michelle: hates time loopsseramercury on June 18th, 2007 03:11 am (UTC)
Oh, and here's an icon I made from the episode Heroes. I can't seem to make it smaller to be used on LJ, but I thought I'd share. :)

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ridin' the star mile: jack-freestargazercmc on June 19th, 2007 04:47 am (UTC)
More Jack lines
Some of my all-time favorite Jack lines, guaranteed to make me giggle:

JACK: Now we wait. If Daniel's still around, he'll know what the message means.
SAMUELS: What if the aliens get it?
JACK: Well, they could be blowing their noses right now.
~ Children of the Gods

DANIEL: Hathor was the Egyptian goddess of fertility, inebriety and music.
JACK: Sex, drugs and rock'n'roll?
~Hathor

DANIEL: "Teal'c, what is this?"
TEAL'C: "It is a long range visual, communication device. Somewhat like your television. Only much further advanced."
JACK: "Think it gets Showtime?"
~Within the Serpent’s Grasp

THORNBIRD: What was the weapon you used?
JACK: Weapon?
THORNBIRD: Our cameras showed some sort of weapon.
JACK: Oh. Well, it's hard to say.
THORNBIRD: Some sort of state secret?
JACK: No, just difficult to pronounce.
~1969

SAM: P4X 884 looks like an untouched paradise, sir.
TEAL'C: Appearances may be deceiving.
JACK: One man's ceiling is another man's floor.
DANIEL: A fool's paradise is a wise man's hell.
JACK: Never run with scissors?
~Urgo


SAM: The asteroid has an irregular shape, but we've calculated its length from end to end to be approximately 137 kilometers.
JACK: I've seen this movie. It hits Paris.
~Fail Safe

JACK: It's always 'suicide-mission this, save-the-planet that.' No one ever stops by just to say 'hi' anymore.
~Summit

JACK: I am so sorry. I was just finishing up a lovely brunch.
BAAL: Impudence.
JACK: No, tuna.
~Reckoning, Part I
Working for the Mandroid: War Storiesmoonshayde on June 19th, 2007 09:53 pm (UTC)
Re: More Jack lines
Guh, so many awesome Jack lines. He always gets THE best lines. I love him.
eregyrn: SG - Jack - dubiouseregyrn on June 19th, 2007 04:50 pm (UTC)
Ohhhhh, Jack!

Jack is what made me go from a casual watcher of the show, to a fully involved fan (in the space about about 5 episodes of S5). I didn't expect it. I'd never seen RDA in anything before. I'd seen the movie Stargate, loved it, but was (of course!) more into Daniel from that. I didn't expect to love SG-1. I didn't expect to fall so deeply into it. And I didn't expect that it would be Jack who grabbed me so hard.

A lot of folks here have already mentioned key stuff about Jack that I love.

Other things:

I love that, whether he was acting dumb or just was occasionally actually confused, when the chips were down and it came to action, Jack was always precisely *ON* and there was absolutely no pretending that he was anything less than a brilliant military strategist and soldier. But he was also never a braggart about those skills, not really. (He was sometimes sarcastically superior about it.) He didn't need the spotlight on him. He wasn't actually threatened by Teal'c's physical superiority (or enormous experience). "Quietly competent" is how I think of him, as a military leader in the field -- willing to let others shine (like his pointed choice of Sam to demonstrate the P90's capabilities in "The Warrior), but always willing to lead from the front and do the hard jobs if he could.

I just can't think of instances where the show had Jack put a foot seriously wrong as a military leader -- except when they *meant* for him to, so they could make a point out of it. (And I'm sorry -- as much goodwill as I have towards S9/S10, or to a lesser extent to SGA... but I didn't feel the same about Mitchell or Sheppard, and that was a big part of my inability to completely warm to them. Jack was an all-around tough leading act to follow for those characters, but even more, when it came to setting the standard as a military leader, he set the bar *really* high, and I never felt like the more recent writing teams got that, necessarily.)

I loved that, between RDA and the early writers, there was this decision to make the show's arguable lead, Jack, into this really very quirky character. I loved the taken-as-given, basic military badassery, and how that got leavened with all these other things that you don't necessarily *expect* from a genre show hero. The terrible, terrible dress sense. (niamaea recently put up a hilarious but true photo-essay about it.) Those occasional flashes of surprise or wonder or childish excitement. The fact that RDA was always so willing to show us Jack feeling pain (stoic? are you kidding?), or being squicked (such as seeing Sho'nauc's symbiote in "Crossroads"), or being startled, or being absolutely freaking-out scared (I treasure, just *TREASURE* the scenes in "Bane" where he so freaked out by the bugs, and the one where he's dancing around in the Gateroom brushing at his hair because the bug is flying around).

Those are just some of the Jack O'Neill moments I remember best. :) *Being* cool? Yes. Always *looking* cool? No, and I loved that they let him be that rounded. (I'm sure I'll come back here at some point when I remember something else I should have mentioned.)
Suzanne: jackbreathesuzannemarie on June 19th, 2007 07:27 pm (UTC)
You touched on something that I've noticed but I don't think I've ever articulated. He's confident enough about himself that he doesn't have to be right, or the strongest, or feel the need to squash anybody down to make himself feel better.

I think that's the ultimate in confidence and cool. He doesn't mind letting others have the spotlight. He's not afraid to look like an idiot. He just is who he is. Kudos to Jack and kudos to RDA for being the kind of actor who's willing to lend the goofiness and vulnerability to the character. It's tempting to take a character like that and make him the proverbial "tough as nails," hardbitten military guy. Well he is tough as nails, but it's a toughness that shines all the brighter because of the other qualities he brings to the table.

The more that I watch and rewatch, the more I become convinced that Jack is the most layered character of the entire bunch. Not that the others don't have layers too, but I think Jack has a whole 'nother level of complexity going on. And the more I watch, the more I think that RDA skills as an actor are seriously underrated. He breathed a lot of life into that role and allowed for a lot of reading and interpreting between the lines.
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izhilzha: carter'saroundizhilzha on June 19th, 2007 08:53 pm (UTC)
Ah, Jack...
My love for this character is unusual for me. Normally I go for the geeks. But something about Jack O'Neill grabbed me while I was watching "Children of the Gods," and he's been my favorite ever since.

If I had to describe him in one word, it would be "honorable." He keeps his word, the letter and the spirit of it, and would never consider leaving one of his teammates behind, not if he could prevent that in any way. He does his duty and obeys orders...but if those get in the way of what needs to be done, or what's right, Jack doesn't hesitate to follow his own judgment and take the consequences.

I love that about him.

As proof that I always have and always will love Jack, here are two fics:

I wrote Roll With the Punches right after I saw "In the Serpent's Grasp"/"The Serpent's Lair" and it's a tag for that episode.

These Are Gold, otoh, is set between seasons 8 and 9, and while Jack isn't the pov character here, he does feature strongly.

I've missed you, Jack, and will miss you more now that our show is ending altogether. *blows kisses*
Working for the Mandroidmoonshayde on June 19th, 2007 10:07 pm (UTC)
Re: Ah, Jack...
If I had to describe him in one word, it would be "honorable." He keeps his word, the letter and the spirit of it, and would never consider leaving one of his teammates behind, not if he could prevent that in any way. He does his duty and obeys orders...but if those get in the way of what needs to be done, or what's right, Jack doesn't hesitate to follow his own judgment and take the consequences.

That really does sum him up, doesn't it? *sigh* I shall miss him too.
redbyrd_sgficredbyrd_sgfic on June 20th, 2007 02:20 am (UTC)
I think the thing that made me fall for Jack was his utter refusal to give up. Only Jack could have said "We're just- having a bad day" in a situation like that..

My favorite fanfic take on Jack's transfer to DC is Aelfgyfu's Changing the Guard.

It took me a long time to work up to writing Jack, but I finally did his POV in a couple of stories, Starting Over, which picks up in the middle of the movie and ends in the middle of COTG. I wrote it to try and come up with some justification that the Jack O'Neill of the movie could really be the same Jack of the television series- and wound up convincing myself.

And I did it again in No Return, which splits the POV between Jack and the alien 'Tanner' in Point of No Return. ("Magnets." LOL!)

Honestly, I think I could pick a good Jack line from pretty much every episode he appears in. The show became much less shiny in S9, when we lost him as regular cast.
Suzannesuzannemarie on June 20th, 2007 02:49 am (UTC)
Hey, I saw this post and wanted to mention that I've been reading the stories at your site and really enjoying them. Especially Starting Over and the Abyss couplet.

Jack is just a fascinating character to watch and to write. There are just so many facets there to explore.