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22 April 2010 @ 10:12 pm
Supernatural 5x19: Hammer of the Gods  
I don't usually do an initial reaction post. Huh.

I really enjoyed this episode. Gabe! Aw!

Nice to see Dean back in the game. Of course, now I'm worried about Sam.

I thought this was a fantastic swan song for Trickster/Gabriel. And how fitting that he was posing as Loki, the trickster god? I loved that. I loved all the interplay with different religions in this episode.

Gabe I miss you already! Not dead! Noooooo. With Gabe, there is always the small small chance he is out there, but I think he is really dead this time. But even so, easy enough to retcon him if they ever wanted him back.

I don't have anything specific to say about this episode aside from I love where they are going with the rings being the key to get Lucifer in his cage. That begs the question, once they get the rings, how to the trick Lucifer?

My theory? Sam. Something is going to happen where Sam is the one to cage him. And it isn't going to be pretty. Maybe Sam has to go with him or says "yes" or something. *sigh* I'd like to say there would be a last minute save or Dean will come to the rescue (with Sam) but with this show? Pfft. I am expecting the worst LOL

Anyway, I loved the episode and I am excited for the remaining episodes, even if I have a feeling of impending doom. Show rocks, yo!
Current Mood: excitedexcited
Library Alterna-Chick ;)jedishadowolf on April 23rd, 2010 02:27 am (UTC)
I'm with you! I have to admit to twitching a bit on the actual named gods rather than the generic pagan gods they've used in the past but I realized that's awfully hypocritical of me. Really loved Gabe's speech to Lucy. :)
Working for the Mandroid: Rock Onmoonshayde on April 23rd, 2010 03:03 am (UTC)
Gabe's speech to Lucy was a thing of beauty!
Nialla: Supernaturalnialla42 on April 23rd, 2010 02:55 am (UTC)
I had a mixed reaction. I liked the story overall and was really looking forward to seeing some non-Judeo-Christian deities getting their two cents in about the whole end of the world thing.

What I didn't like was how easily they were wiped out. A fist or knife fight with Lucifer and they're dead? Really? I know he's got to keep going until the finale, but they're gods and he's... well, not.

Angel, not a god, though I guess an argument could be made for the god of hell. Though Hades might get pissed over that. Hel might sue for copyright infringement. ;)

Also a bit disappointed Castiel wasn't involved, giving some dry commentary on the players, but I guess that would have been cheating. Could also have led to some tag-teaming with Gabriel and Castiel against Lucifer.

My question has always been "Will the real Loki please stand up?" If Gabriel has been using it as cover, what happened to the real Loki? Or was Gabe hiding out in the Norse pantheon early on?
Working for the Mandroid: Angel Trapmoonshayde on April 23rd, 2010 03:02 am (UTC)
I figured he was always Loki. So he's been hiding out for a very very long time.

No Castiel was a bummer. But I guess they also need to keep the suspense over what happened to him.

I wasn't disappointed with the other gods, but I was surprised how they were basically wiped out in one episode. We've seen Dean and Sam kill gods before, so angels, who through show canon was way way way more powerful than anything we've seen, moping the floor with the other gods made sense to me. Plus, like you said, Lucifer is huge downstairs. Heck, for all we know Hades works for him.

I loved it. Though, I figure the show will rip my heart out again soon and eat it for breakfast.
Nialla: Supernaturalnialla42 on April 23rd, 2010 03:22 am (UTC)
It just comes across as "too Western" to have an angel be more powerful than gods of other pantheons, especially when some were the "big guns" of their pantheon, not minor gods. Comes too close to saying that the Judeo-Christian God is the creator of all things including other gods, which is kind of offensive to other belief systems that have their own origin stories pre-dating the One God.

I know the show itself has been pretty Judeo-Christian in regard to the central mythology, but it's disappointing there wasn't a better fight instead of just a one-sided smackdown. Previously there's usually a specific way demons, angels, etc. have to be killed, but Lucy was all wham, bam, dead gods everywhere with little fight to it.

I'm not convinced the other gods were wiped out though. There are many pantheons, many gods, yet we only saw a few at the meeting. Maybe this will stir up a few more to fight. I rather fancy the idea of some of them secretly (or not so secretly) helping the boys get the rings and help with the tricking, because they like the planet just fine as it is, thanks. ;)
Library Alterna-Chick ;)jedishadowolf on April 23rd, 2010 01:37 pm (UTC)
I agree - for Odin, Baldur, and Kali to be iced (or nearly) in one hit made no sense to me. But I can see it as they weren't killed only their current less than full powered avatars. The gods themselves will return to their overworlds and come back later.

     Mandya_phoenixdragon on April 23rd, 2010 03:18 am (UTC)
I knew those rings had to mean something! Hubby had even theorised that they fashioned a weapon like the Colt - but this is an awesome twist!

Expect the worst - but hope for the best!!

Annalastingdreams8 on April 23rd, 2010 03:27 am (UTC)
I actually watched tonight's airing right after Vampire Diaries, and I really enjoyed it! I didn't know Supernatural had gotten this far in its plot :)
Omw, I didn't even know who Gabe was at first, but I loved his banter and snark and wish he really wasn't gone either. Usually, I'd say anything is possible, but seeing those burnt wings on the floor was...wow, powerful.
brijeana: Supernatural - Big Sammichbrijeana on April 23rd, 2010 04:05 am (UTC)
I enjoyed the episode. The gods gathering at the cheesy hotel and wearing name tags - oh that was wonderful. For the first time I could see supernatural as a quirky graphic novel.

I wasn't happy when the Trickster was first revealed to be Gabriel. But in this episode he went toe to toe with Lucifer ... I really enjoyed that. I felt like he really had a chance to shine as an angel. Sad to see him go.

I'm excited about the rings. Pestilence was NAUSEATING.
Destinadestina on April 23rd, 2010 05:12 am (UTC)
I don't know how they get Lucifer anywhere without Sam as bait, and that is bound to end horribly. Eeek.
jessm78jessm78 on April 23rd, 2010 05:36 pm (UTC)
Pretty much a big "ditto" to everything you said. Really miss Gabe, but loved his swan song. And that he left the boys with that clue.

I'm with you on the theory. I'm thinking that Sam is probably going to lure him, maybe with the "promise" that he'll say "yes." I'd like to think he'll do it in a similar way to what Dean did concerning Michael in last week's ep, but I'm not sure if that would be possible. I'm getting nervous and worried for Sam. The upside is that Gabe told them Lucifer isn't clued in on this (about trapping him in his cage), or something like that. But... yeah, still nervous.
the rain not the fire: Alice ~ Charlie (White Knight)platysseus on April 24th, 2010 03:39 am (UTC)
I'm... thinking Gabe's not gone completely.

1. He's the Trickster. Could be an elaborate trick. Lucy might know his bro, but he's been in Hell an awfully long time.
2. He's an archangel. Castiel was killed, but brought back by God. God could (should) do the same with Gabe.
3. I ain't letting him go yet. :P But, if he's really gone, I'm happy with how he went. ;)

Otherwise, loved the episode. Favourite parts were: the elephant in the room; Gabriel's speech to Lucifer; Pestilence(?)'s scene [hi Matt Frewer!].

I was slightly disappointed by the lack of Hotel California reference. I sang the "check out" line when Sam & Dean were asking about the newlyweds.

Edited at 2010-04-24 03:43 am (UTC)