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16 April 2012 @ 08:11 am
Bobby's Current Arc on Supernatural  
My musings beneath the cut contain spoilers for all episodes aired. Do not read if you aren't caught up on the series.

My spoiler free thoughts on where Supernatural is taking the Bobby story.

I've been thinking about ghost!Bobby a lot, even before we had confirmation that Bobby is a ghost. The hints they've left in the show haven't been subtle at all, though when you bring them all together, it does paint a more complete picture. Maybe I'm off or maybe I'm on. We'll see.

Anyway, the Reaper gave Bobby a choice: stay behind or stay as a ghost (and risk the chance of becoming a vengeful spirit). We've seen examples scattered through the season: Dean's beer vanishes, the paper that mysteriously presents itself when Sam and Dean needed Bobby's help, the sword flying into Dean's hands...I am sure there are more that I am missing. They finally revealed all these occurrences were Bobby and that he is attached to the flask.

My guess is that not only is Bobby haunting the boys, but also that Dean is channeling him. Why not Sam? Back in the Season 2 episode In My Time of Dying, when Dean was a spirit and faced with the same prospects as Bobby, Sam was able to channel Dean due to their closeness and his psychic ability. Here, Dean is the one who is always carrying the flask. I think keeping that item on him is influencing him. If Sam was carrying the flask I would assume it would be happening to him.

I would assume Bobby wants revenge on Dick for killing him. Dean seems to have an unhealthy obsession with Dick right now. (Though it can be argued that Dean is just revenge-driven because it was a loved one who died.)

In one episode, Dean spoke Japanese. Bobby has been shown to speak Japanese. (Though, we've seen Dean say words in other languages before.)

I thought there were more examples, but I can't think of them right now. And yeah, these examples aren't strong and can be interpreted different ways. I'm just going by what I think.

So I was thinking, what happens next? If Bobby starts to become more and more angry, would that channel through Dean? Would Bobby and/or Dean go postal? Would it cause problems for the boys? And if they learn about Bobby, what will they do? It's no accident that they chose Sam's solo case at the psych ward as a loved one turned angry spirit. That girl's brother's presence was comforting at first until his loneliness overcame him. Can we expect something similar for Bobby? I don't see him going off to kill Sam and Dean so they can be together, but if he is turning into a vengeful spirit, that is bound to be a problem.

(I say this with the understanding not all spirits go evil. Think episodes like Home (Mary), and the spirits in Roadkill and The Usual Suspects.)

But the show has set the foundation for some of the main characters to go in the direction of revengeful. It was Tessa's whole part in In My Time of Dying that really piqued my interest in the show. About how Dean could become the very thing he hunts. He could have ended as an angry, frustrated spirit haunting the halls of the hospital. Maybe Bobby is heading for a similar fate.

I am excited and nervous where this story goes. Hopefully there will be some twist. But even if we get a heartbreaking end where the boys have to put Bobby's spirit to rest or he chooses to rest himself, I'm sure it'll be fantastic.

Current Mood: contemplativecontemplative
captain_tivcaptain_tiv on April 16th, 2012 01:38 pm (UTC)
I'm absolutely tickled we're gonna see Bobby again. :) He's one of my favorite all-time characters.
Working for the Mandroid: Made of Win (Bobby)moonshayde on April 16th, 2012 06:53 pm (UTC)
He's awesome!
crayonbreakygal: SPN Bobby  nanokscrayonbreakygal on April 16th, 2012 04:41 pm (UTC)
I know that some people don't like it that they have brought Bobby back as a ghost. I cannot wait to see what they're going to do with it though.
Working for the Mandroid: Father Figuresmoonshayde on April 16th, 2012 06:54 pm (UTC)
It's a perfect theme for them to explore on this show. They've hinted at it and talked about it in the past, but now we get to see the complexities when it does happen. I'm surprised they haven't done it sooner.
captain_tivcaptain_tiv on April 16th, 2012 09:59 pm (UTC)
Bobby could come back alive. Both Dean and Sam have died and gone to hell and come back. They've been killed and gone to heaven lots of times. Bobby might be able to come back.
Working for the Mandroid: Headlightsmoonshayde on April 16th, 2012 10:05 pm (UTC)
Anything is possible. Bobby has died and come back before, just like the other characters. Who knows if they'll do it this time, though.
cate12345cate12345 on April 16th, 2012 11:01 pm (UTC)
I'm so glad we got some form of Bobby back. I hate they killed him off. I'm sure you're right, that however this turns out, it will be fantastic!
Working for the Mandroid: Carside SamDeanmoonshayde on April 17th, 2012 05:19 pm (UTC)
Yes, whatever happens and whatever they do, it'll be fantastic!
Kat Sua ★: [SPN] Dean | second to breathestarianprincess on April 17th, 2012 03:26 pm (UTC)
To be honest, I wasn't so sure I would like it if they brought him back as a ghost, but as you've said not all spirits become evil. And nothing is set in stone. So I do want to see where this new twist goes and if there are any more waiting for us down the road. And I agree, that how ever they decide to handle this, I'm sure it'll be epic.
Working for the Mandroidmoonshayde on April 17th, 2012 05:38 pm (UTC)
I have been excited and anxious at the same time about this storyline. But I really do like how they have handled it so far :)
MegTDJ: SPN - Bobby dying smilemeg_tdj on April 17th, 2012 04:26 pm (UTC)
Okay, first of all - as soon as Castiel is better, HE'S GOING TO BRING BOBBY BACK. I have to start by saying that, or this whole discussion will just feel wrong. :P

But in the meantime... that's a really cool theory. We've seen ghosts latch onto people before and encourage them to do their dirty work, as well as ghosts that have done the living person's dirty work for them, so that would be interesting to see.

I think that, at least for now, Bobby feels as though he's watching over the boys and is still able to help them in certain ways, and ironically I think that's probably what's keeping him from getting frustrated enough to make himself known to them. Once the boys start tangling with Roman again, though, I think Bobby's anger will fuel him and he'll gain more power. I'd like to think that Bobby knows enough about evil spirits to hold himself back from becoming one, just like Dean resisted drinking blood when he was a vampire and Sam bounced back from full-on demon-blood-addict once he realized what he was becoming, but either way they decide to go with this, I'm sure it'll be an awesome ride.

Although, I may never recover from the trauma if they have to burn the flask and put Bobby to rest. But that won't happen anyway, because CAS IS GOING TO BRING HIM BACK. *nods*
Working for the Mandroid: Mastermindmoonshayde on April 17th, 2012 05:36 pm (UTC)
Yeah, I don't think that if it is happening, it's intentional at all. In fact, if it's going on, I think it's been unintentional and slight. I agree that Bobby is using all his strength to try to help and protect the boys. But I think he's going to have these temptations he's going to have to fight and I wonder in what ways it will affect Sam and Dean, whether directly or indirectly.

What fascinates me is that whether they go wit Bobby fighting to become a vengeful spirit or not, whether he influences Dean or Sam, whether he is just a guardian, no matter what they do it is a great character arc that hasn't been explored yet on the show and I'm excited for it.

Don't have the same optimism that Bobby will come back alive, but hope endures ;)

MegTDJ: SPN - Castiel Bobby uh ohmeg_tdj on April 17th, 2012 05:41 pm (UTC)
Optimism? It's not optimism, it's fact! :P

no matter what they do it is a great character arc that hasn't been explored yet on the show and I'm excited for it.

Yes! They've planted the seed for this so many times, so it makes sense that they're finally exploring it, and that they're doing so with Bobby. They couldn't really spend half a season turning Sam or Dean ghostly, and while they might have tried it with John, JDM wasn't as readily available as Jim. So yeah, it makes total sense to me, and I'm excited to see where they go with it, too.

But he's totally coming back to life once they're done. *nods*
Working for the Mandroid: Huntersmoonshayde on April 17th, 2012 05:44 pm (UTC)
It was one the threads that originally nudged me into watching the show, so I have a special affection for it. I loved that whole dialogue between Tessa and Dean in IMTOD, and I liked how they explored some issues with frustrated spirits as Dean was fighting for his life in that episode.

They could not do this with Sam and Dean long-term as they are the stars, and I agree that they might have wanted to explore it with John if they could have, but it wasn't possible. Now they are doing it with Bobby and I know they won't disappoint :)